MeeCiteeWurkor found an article showing how Bill passed on a proven major league sports event

 from an unknown source, though I would LOVE to take credit for it

According to Michael Bates, Baker announced he was running for mayor at a Democratic fundraiser... so since Baker is against recall reform, can we start a petition immediately upon completion of the election to remove him from office if he wins? After all, Im quite sure everyone who voted for his opponent will more than cover the required number of signatures... maybe we should have people outside of polling places with petition in hand!

Unknown to most people PETA is  in favor of banning Pit Bulls, in fact they are in favor of banning all pets. Now some idiot in Chicago is proposing a ban on all dogs over 15lbs in weight, its for the children afterall.

here are just a portion from his article in the Chicago Tribune

" You want a dog that weighs more than, say, 15 pounds?
Then you pay $1,000 a year in fees and licenses for the right to own one. The fee could be knocked down to, say, $200 a year if the dog is spayed or neutered and passes temperament and obedience tests at least two times a year under the supervision of state-licensed animal trainers who would certify the animal's behavior."

David Schuttler has dug up some older Whirled articles concerning airport noise which indicates the Layman Van Acres neighborhood and a few others  are "located in areas where the noise level is not recommended for residential areas, according to federal land-use guidlines." I dont know about you, but if the feds say they arent recommended for residential use, why are there still houses there?

what I found interesting was this little article from 11-20-1996...

"Residents who are affected by airport noise should not be left in limbo indefinitally, wondering if or when something will change"

Layman Van Acres has been in limbo for a long time, longer even than 1996, and from all appearances the airport has no intentions of changing the way things are done to fix the problems. The airport just re-hired the same consultant (Barnard Dunkelberg) that performed the sound tests in the 90s. Eye-witness accounts say that the tests were skewed by purposely placing sensors where they would capture less sound (between houses, under trees, etc.).

I have been hearing that from some candidates in the current election cycle as well as the previous where the seat was filled for vacating councilor Roop. I’ve been hearing "I want to work with the council" or "I'm tired of the division", but what does that mean? And which side of the council are you siding with? (even though we really know the answer to that one).

The truth in these comments from the likes of Martinson, is they want to put the council back as a rubber stamp for the mayor, the midtowners, and the old money.

As far as I can tell David Patrick did nothing for his own district and was there just to side with the cockroaches, and since Roscoe Turner has been involved the cockroaches seem to be running for cover when the light is shined upon their deeds.

Jack Henderson now sits in the seat that Joe Williams once sat at, you remember Joe, the guy who gave a ride to a woman who was not his wife, then called the police out, claiming she stole his wallet, which was found in the backseat of his own car (I wonder how it ended up there?) He then proceeded to call the police department racist...

Those are just two examples of former councilors who "worked with the council", now look at those remaining, Sullivan (who doesnt live in his district, is rude, and acted like a 13 year old at the previous city council meeting), Neal (does she have an opinion of her own?), and Christiansen (The Poster Child for the appearance of impropriety)... are these the people they want to work with?
 

The most obvious thing concerning tonight's city council meeting was that unannounced mayoral candidate Bill Christiansen was absent from the meeting, the general consensus from those that I talked to was he missed it so he wouldnt have to vote on a controversial issue that his opponents could use against him... dont worry Bill, they have more than enough ammunition with out you having to hand them the gun.

After a lively debate over allowing another section of city employees to collective bargain (and as an IS guy I noticed that the techies once again get excluded, not that I was for unionizing), the council got to the meat of the council meeting, charter changes.

Council district 2 candidate Rick Westcott spoke of his approval of the proposed charter changes that are to go to the people for a vote, however during discussion, Baker and the rest of the cockroaches decided that again it would be to cumbersome to compare signatures to signatures as proposed, they wanted to compare signatures to names instead, so the motion failed. The one thing that turned Tulsa into a national laughingstock, again, goes unresolved, and again, the cockroaches are afraid that the people will make their voices heard, well guess what, next year their voices will be heard, loud and clear, and Baker, Neal, Sullivan, Martinson, Christiansen and their ilk will be on the outside looking in, if the people of Tulsa throw off their blinders...

___________: Iraq has abused its last chance
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- From the Oval Office, President ___________ told the nation Wednesday evening why he ordered new military strikes against Iraq.

The president said Iraq's refusal to cooperate with U.N. weapons inspectors presented a threat to the entire world.

"Saddam (Hussein) must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons," ___________ said.

Operation Desert xxxxx, a strong, sustained series of attacks, will be carried out over several days by U.S. and British forces, ___________ said.

"Earlier today I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces," ___________ said.

"Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors," said ___________.

___________ also stated that, while other countries also had weapons of mass destruction, Hussein is in a different category because he has used such weapons against his own people and against his neighbors.

'Without delay, diplomacy or warning'

The Iraqi leader was given a final warning six weeks ago, ___________ said, when Baghdad promised to cooperate with U.N. inspectors at the last minute just as U.S. warplanes were headed its way.

"Along with Prime Minister (Tony) Blair of Great Britain, I made it equally clear that if Saddam failed to cooperate fully we would be prepared to act without delay, diplomacy or warning," ___________ said.

The president said the report handed in Tuesday by Richard Butler, head of the United Nations Special Commission in charge of finding and destroying Iraqi weapons, was stark and sobering.

Iraq failed to cooperate with the inspectors and placed new restrictions on them, ___________ said. He said Iraqi officials also destroyed records and moved everything, even the furniture, out of suspected sites before inspectors were allowed in.

"Instead of inspectors disarming Saddam, Saddam has disarmed the inspectors," ___________ said.

"In halting our airstrikes in November, I gave Saddam a chance -- not a license. If we turn our backs on his defiance, the credibility of U.S. power as a check against Saddam will be destroyed," the president explained.

Strikes necessary to stunt weapons programs

___________ said he made the decision to strike Wednesday with the unanimous agreement of his security advisors.

Timing was important, said the president, because without a strong inspection system in place, Iraq could rebuild its chemical, biological and nuclear programs in a matter of months, not years.

"If Saddam can cripple the weapons inspections system and get away with it, he would conclude the international community, led by the United States, has simply lost its will," said ___________. "He would surmise that he has free rein to rebuild his arsenal of destruction."

___________ also called Hussein a threat to his people and to the security of the world.

"The best way to end that threat once and for all is with a new Iraqi government -- a government ready to live in peace with its neighbors, a government that respects the rights of its people," ___________ said.

Such a change in Baghdad would take time and effort, ___________ said, adding that his administration would work with Iraqi opposition forces.

(Line of copy removed)

"Saddam Hussein and the other enemies of peace may have thought that the serious debate currently before the House of Representatives would distract Americans or weaken our resolve to face him down," he said.

"But once more, the United States has proven that although we are never eager to use force, when we must act in America's vital interests, we will do so."

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Now Im convinced that we need the arena:*

Tulsa May Still Be Interested In MLS Franchise

*Please adjust your sarcasm meter

No, I didn't win the lottery. I am a music fan in the truest sense of the word. My collection consists of everything from heavy techno metal to gospel quartet music, from the famous to the obscure.

While perusing amazon.com one day I discovered a CD that I previously had on cassette was now available, something I thought would never be released on CD (from 1986). After doing a little research I found out that Wounded Bird Records had acquired the rights to a ton of out of print records and I loaded up... Marshall Crenshaw, The Outlaws, Blackfoot, Axe, Poco & Vandenburg!

So if there is a CD that you have not been able to find go to www.woundedbird.com and see if they have what you are looking for!

One day I would like to wake up in the morning and not think: "Who is the city going to take advantage of today?"

8 years ago I became a first time homeowner, and less than 4 months later we become embroiled with the airport over aircraft noise and the (literal) damage it was doing to our neighborhood. The more I dug, the more dirt I found, and what I found was that this city is corrupt to its very core and the majority of people do not see it, they just blindly follow whichever banner they feel like following, I'm not sure if its apathy or if they like being spoon fed by the establishment when it comes to the mundane issues that affect our town.
 
Its only when one becomes involved does the truth begin to unfold, and the truth will set you and the city free.

About a year or so ago I began reading batesline.com, which then led me to meeciteewurkor and I became inspired I wanted to do something besides fight my own battles, I wanted to help expose the corruption in the city that I love. You see, I really do love Tulsa, I was born here and it pains me to see our past destroyed for no benefit other than the short-sightedness of a few in power. I want Tulsa to have good streets, schools, & protection, things that encourage people to come in and start families & businesses... somehow the city got off track. The city leadership, guided by the midtownie's and a "my-way-or-the-highway" attitude, have cost Tulsa a lot in the way of outside investment.

So I say its time to get involved if you arent already, start now before you find yourself in the same predicament as Peggy Jones, the folks on south Yale with the bridge, those at 71st & Harvard, those on Brookside, those by the airport and those along I-44. stand up now, take the city back.

 So now we have a new Management team for our new albatross...err arena, and you can hear the "excitement" on the streets... this Management Company pulled the Rolling Stones into the Fresno Arena, which is smaller than ours!!!!

So I have a couple of questions:

If Fresno can bring in the Stones with a smaller arena, then why are we building a bigger one?  What "real" economic impact will having the Stones come to town (once) help? Most of the ticket prices go to the Stones and their promoter. With nothing attached to our new arena most concertgoers will drive-in and drive-out with out stopping to do anything downtown.

Personally I have only been out of town for concerts for two events: Anthony Gomes in Joplin Mo, and the Eureka Springs Blues Fest.  Between the discovery the Tulsa Blues fest, and the political games played in Eureka Springs, I won't be making that trek again anytime soon. (you think Tulsa politics are bad?)

Is it some sort of bragging right to declare that you get (fill in the blank here) to come to your town? Should we be doing that on the backs of those who won't ever step foot in the arena? The poor are paying extra for their food and clothing so up to 18,000 people can potentially see the Rolling Stones in concert? What benefit does that provide them? What about the other 806,000 residents? What benefit do the Stones provide?

Add to that the Talons & the Oilers, whose average home attendance is somewhere around 2000 people a game, leaving 16,000 seats empty. So now we have 824,000 people paying for the entertainment of 2000 people... 

Figure it this way, every man woman and child in Tulsa county will pay $1435.00 for this arena (using current figures) this does not count the money that the arena will lose during its day to day operations... doesn't sound like such a good deal now does it?

The future of Tulsa is at a crossroads.

Tulsa can either let the powers that be remain in charge which has resulted in the snake-oil sale of an arena that will pull money away from more important things like police & infrastructure, the sabotage of entrepreneurial enterprises from the outside that would have pulled money into Tulsa because the fat cats want to keep outsiders out of their sandbox, and the unnessesary propping up of our neighbors at the expense of Tulsa's future. Those currently in power have failed with our education system, with public safety, and they have failed Tulsa as a whole, especially the north, the west and the east, and if those areas continue to deteriorate, it will eventually seep into midtown & south Tulsa as witnessed by the growing crime rates.

So what is the other option? We need a change in local government (which doesn't include reorganizing the city council or adding large councilors, that power play is nothing more than an attempt to retain/regain control by the current "leaders" to continue its deadly grasp on the city), we need to remove the people who are running this city into the ground; we need a mayor who will look out for Tulsa first, then the region, according to population growth & sales tax revenue reports area communities are doing well on their own without our help. We need initiatives that will bring outside revenue into the city coffers. We need leadership that will focus on public safety, schools, the river and infrastructure, as the saying goes, "if they build it, they will come"

So Tulsa, you have a choice, we can either strive for greatness or continue on the current path of failure.

We'll need it to replace all the WilTel jobs that are leaving downtown!